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	<description>Idle musings of a flesh-eating dragon.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Religion and me by Flesh-eating Dragon</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/religion-and-me/#comment-2164</link>
		<dc:creator>Flesh-eating Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Near the beginning it raises a number of topics that may be worth writing about another day. Near the end it's just weird.

On the subject of free will, I have heard people argue that Christianity is logically inconsistent on the grounds that the notion of free will is incompatible with the notion that God already knows the future. Supposedly, if God already knows what you will do, then what you will do cannot be free by definition.

I find it ironic that in trying to show that other people's views are logically inconsistent, people could make such a fundamental error in logic themselves. The chain of causality in the typical Christian claim (more or less) is that your act of free will causes God to know what that act is, which causes God to have &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; known what that act would be. This is not inconsistent unless one can show that the chain of causality is &lt;i&gt;looped&lt;/i&gt; (i.e. that there is a chain of causality from God's knowledge of your act to the act itself, or something like that). But one cannot demonstrate such a chain without making assertions that the typical Christian will not agree with (and if you do that, you're no longer demonstrating an &lt;i&gt;internal&lt;/i&gt; contradiction).

I think the whole argument is one that is made without thinking, in which respect it's like a lot of other arguments on both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Near the beginning it raises a number of topics that may be worth writing about another day. Near the end it&#8217;s just weird.</p>
<p>On the subject of free will, I have heard people argue that Christianity is logically inconsistent on the grounds that the notion of free will is incompatible with the notion that God already knows the future. Supposedly, if God already knows what you will do, then what you will do cannot be free by definition.</p>
<p>I find it ironic that in trying to show that other people&#8217;s views are logically inconsistent, people could make such a fundamental error in logic themselves. The chain of causality in the typical Christian claim (more or less) is that your act of free will causes God to know what that act is, which causes God to have <i>always</i> known what that act would be. This is not inconsistent unless one can show that the chain of causality is <i>looped</i> (i.e. that there is a chain of causality from God&#8217;s knowledge of your act to the act itself, or something like that). But one cannot demonstrate such a chain without making assertions that the typical Christian will not agree with (and if you do that, you&#8217;re no longer demonstrating an <i>internal</i> contradiction).</p>
<p>I think the whole argument is one that is made without thinking, in which respect it&#8217;s like a lot of other arguments on both sides.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Religion and me by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/religion-and-me/#comment-2160</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It is a sin to regard the fact that God cannot do the impossible as a limitation on His powers."  --Thomas Aquinas.

If you haven't read Raymond Smullyan's &lt;a href="http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/godTaoist.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Is God A Taoist?"&lt;/a&gt; yet, please do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is a sin to regard the fact that God cannot do the impossible as a limitation on His powers.&#8221;  &#8211;Thomas Aquinas.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read Raymond Smullyan&#8217;s <a href="http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/godTaoist.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Is God A Taoist?&#8221;</a> yet, please do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some more Australian vocabulary by Flesh-eating Dragon</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/some-more-australian-vocabulary/#comment-2153</link>
		<dc:creator>Flesh-eating Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that several musical adaptations of &lt;i&gt;Snugglepot and Cuddlepie&lt;/i&gt; have been made. The one I know best is the Peter Combe adaptation, of which my mother has a copy and uses the songs in music teaching for primary school children which she does on a voluntary basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that several musical adaptations of <i>Snugglepot and Cuddlepie</i> have been made. The one I know best is the Peter Combe adaptation, of which my mother has a copy and uses the songs in music teaching for primary school children which she does on a voluntary basis.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some more Australian vocabulary by Barry Haworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Haworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  I came across your blog while Googling for items related to Snugglepot and Cuddlepie - I'm in a musical version of the story at the Brisbane Arts Theatre.  For some reason, the phrase "good root" doesn't appear in our script ...

I like your closing comment about Jupiter.  A pity that piece of slang never caught on.  It even has classical antecedents.  Jupiter was the god of Thunder, after all, and I remember once getting involved in a performance of the play "The Cyclops" by Euripides (back when my wife was doing her PhD at Sydney uni and was active in the Classics Society).  It is a long time ago, But I remember a line where the Cyclops is comparing himself to Zeus, and talking about how he in his belly will "Gloriously emulate the thunder of high heaven".  Go, Jupiter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I came across your blog while Googling for items related to Snugglepot and Cuddlepie - I&#8217;m in a musical version of the story at the Brisbane Arts Theatre.  For some reason, the phrase &#8220;good root&#8221; doesn&#8217;t appear in our script &#8230;</p>
<p>I like your closing comment about Jupiter.  A pity that piece of slang never caught on.  It even has classical antecedents.  Jupiter was the god of Thunder, after all, and I remember once getting involved in a performance of the play &#8220;The Cyclops&#8221; by Euripides (back when my wife was doing her PhD at Sydney uni and was active in the Classics Society).  It is a long time ago, But I remember a line where the Cyclops is comparing himself to Zeus, and talking about how he in his belly will &#8220;Gloriously emulate the thunder of high heaven&#8221;.  Go, Jupiter!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Non-fiction on my bookshelf by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/06/18/non-fiction-on-my-bookshelf/#comment-2141</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrgh.  That Lin Carter book has about one error per page, and should be summarily tossed out (not given away, to mislead others).  I started marking up my copy (something I almost never do) until I finally saw the light.

If you happen to have any of Bill Bryson's books, give 'em the same treatment for the same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrgh.  That Lin Carter book has about one error per page, and should be summarily tossed out (not given away, to mislead others).  I started marking up my copy (something I almost never do) until I finally saw the light.</p>
<p>If you happen to have any of Bill Bryson&#8217;s books, give &#8216;em the same treatment for the same reason.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why &#8220;Outer Hoard&#8221;? by skepbitch</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/why-outer-hoard/#comment-2140</link>
		<dc:creator>skepbitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the name, love the story behind it too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the name, love the story behind it too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scepticism in reverse by podblack</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/scepticism-in-reverse/#comment-2122</link>
		<dc:creator>podblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! Want to put it in for the Skeptics of Carlos? www.skepticsofcarlos.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! Want to put it in for the Skeptics of Carlos? <a href="http://www.skepticsofcarlos.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticsofcarlos.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Scepticism in reverse by Richard Saunders</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/scepticism-in-reverse/#comment-2121</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You'll be please to know that I let Jim know about this and he finds amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll be please to know that I let Jim know about this and he finds amazing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Skeptics&#8217; convention by Flesh-eating Dragon</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/06/01/skeptics-convention/#comment-2109</link>
		<dc:creator>Flesh-eating Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not planning to write anything of the sort of quality I would submit to a magazine, which I gather is what Skeptics of Carlos is after. That said, if I end up writing a quality article by accident, then it can perhaps be re-written for a magazine or other medium after the fact.

Is there any chance of the Skeptics endorsing the international political movement dedicated to protesting against the &lt;a href="http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2006/10/14/anti-gravity/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Law of Gravity&lt;/a&gt; and campaigning for its repeal? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not planning to write anything of the sort of quality I would submit to a magazine, which I gather is what Skeptics of Carlos is after. That said, if I end up writing a quality article by accident, then it can perhaps be re-written for a magazine or other medium after the fact.</p>
<p>Is there any chance of the Skeptics endorsing the international political movement dedicated to protesting against the <a href="http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2006/10/14/anti-gravity/" rel="nofollow">Law of Gravity</a> and campaigning for its repeal? :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Preferred words by John Cowan</title>
		<link>http://outerhoard.wordpress.com/2008/06/02/preferred-words/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, &lt;i&gt;whilst&lt;/i&gt; does seem very archaic to us.  My sense (which may be quite inaccurate) is that its revival in Britain and elsewhere is a matter of the last few decades: in the half a million words of &lt;i&gt;The Lord of the Rings&lt;/i&gt;, for example, there are 566 tokens of &lt;i&gt;while&lt;/i&gt; and none at all of &lt;i&gt;whilst&lt;/i&gt;.

The OED's entry is pure unrevised 1st edition, so not very helpful here, although it does point out that &lt;i&gt;while:whilst&lt;/i&gt; is like &lt;i&gt;among:amongst&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;amid:amidst&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;again:against&lt;/i&gt;: the &lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt; is the possessive ending, and the &lt;i&gt;-t&lt;/i&gt; was added under the influence of slightly irregular superlatives like &lt;i&gt;first&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;last&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;least&lt;/i&gt;, etc.

Googling Project Gutenberg shows that out of the approximately 172K English-language documents (including site pages as well as texts), 101K have at least one token of &lt;i&gt;while&lt;/i&gt;, whereas only about 18K have at least one token of &lt;i&gt;whilst&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, <i>whilst</i> does seem very archaic to us.  My sense (which may be quite inaccurate) is that its revival in Britain and elsewhere is a matter of the last few decades: in the half a million words of <i>The Lord of the Rings</i>, for example, there are 566 tokens of <i>while</i> and none at all of <i>whilst</i>.</p>
<p>The OED&#8217;s entry is pure unrevised 1st edition, so not very helpful here, although it does point out that <i>while:whilst</i> is like <i>among:amongst</i>, <i>amid:amidst</i>, and <i>again:against</i>: the <i>s</i> is the possessive ending, and the <i>-t</i> was added under the influence of slightly irregular superlatives like <i>first</i>, <i>last</i>, <i>most</i>, <i>least</i>, etc.</p>
<p>Googling Project Gutenberg shows that out of the approximately 172K English-language documents (including site pages as well as texts), 101K have at least one token of <i>while</i>, whereas only about 18K have at least one token of <i>whilst</i>.</p>
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